Plenty of Fish Experiment: Study 3

Method:

This article aims to enlarge the two previous analytical studies (See study 1 and study 2) and increase our database. Therefore upon completion of this third study of male profiles, we will count with a more proper data base of assessing different issues and to discuss the broader issue of an objective assessment of mate choice in an online dating framework.

The methodology and statistical variables are the same performed in Study 2 . Only the geographical location is changed. 

Localitation: big-sized city C.

Data-collection period: 7- days.

Dummy profiles:

This third study is composed of 6 male profiles, 1 of them moderately attractive (male C (r=6.34), 3 medium attractive ( male D, r=5.50; male B, r=5.18; male E=4.66; male A, r=5.36)  and 1 below- average attractive (male W, r<4).

 

a) Moderately-high attractiveness dummy profile:

  • Male C
Male partner C

Figure 1. Photos of male C

Figure 2. Headboard of male C profile.

Figure 2. Headboard of male C profile.

 

a) Medium-attractiveness dummy profile:

  • Male D.
Male partner D

Figure 3. Photos of male D.

b

Figure 4. Headboard of male D profile.

 

  • Male B
FotorCreated9

Figure 5. Photos of male B.

bperfil

Figure 6. Headboard of male B.

  • Male E
Male partner E

Figure 7. Photos of male E.

perfil

Figure 8. Headboard of male E profile.

  • Male A
Male partner A

Figure 9. Photos of male A.

 

aperfil

Figure 10. Headboard of male A profile.

 

c) Below-medium attractiveness dummy profile:

  • Male W
FotorCreated

Figure 11. Photos of male W.

fperfil

Figure 12. Headboard of male W.

 

 

Results:

a) Moderately-high attractiveness dummy profile:

  • Male C

1) First screenshot (third day):

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Figure 13. Screenshot displaying Mail Inbox at 3rd day; “Meet me” section: Number of people who wants to meet this user; Number of visitors.

1a

Figure 14. Screenshot displaying Contact History: Contacts Inicitated. The number of contacts inicitad is 150. Note that the screenshot shows 149 users, because 1 of them has removed her account.

2b

Figure 15. Screenshot showing Contact History: Contacts Received.

Mail inbox = 9

Meet me = 5

Contacts iniciated = 150

Contacts received = 2

Reply proportion at first message =  7 out of 150.

Reply rate at first message = 4.7 %

2) Second screenshot (seventh day):

2mensaje

Figure 16. Screenshot displaying Mail Inbox at 7th day; “Meet me” section: Number of people who wants to meet this user; Number of visitors.

Sin título

Figure 17. Screenshot displaying Contact History: Contacts Inicitated. The number of people contacted with this dummy were 150. Note that the screenshot shows 146 users, because 4 of them have removed their accounts.

2a

Figure 18. Screenshot showing Contact History: Contacts Received.

 

Mail inbox = 4

Meet me = 6

Total contacts received = 2

New contact received = 0

Reply proportion at second message = 4 out of 150.

Reply rate at second message = 2.7 %

 

b) Medium attractiveness dummy profile:

  • Male D.

 

1) First screenshot (third day):

a

Figure 19. Screenshot displaying Mail Inbox at 3rd day; “Meet me” section: Number of people who wants to meet this user; Number of visitors.

150

Figure 20. Contact History: Contacts Inicitated

respuestas

Figure 21. Screenshot showing Contact History: Contacts Received.

Mail inbox = 12

Meet me = 13

Contacts initiated = 150

Contacts received = 5

Reply proportion at first message =7 out of 150.

Reply rate at first message = 4.7 %

2) Second screenshot (seventh day):

panel completo

Figure 22. Mail Inbox at 7th day; “Meet me” section; Number of visitors.

2mensaje

Figure 23. Screenshot showing Contact History: Contacts Received. Note that 1 female users has removed her account.

147

Figure 24. Screenshot showing Contact History: Contacts Initiated. The number of people contacted with this dummy were 150. Note that the screenshot shows 146 users, because 4 of them have removed their accounts.

Mail inbox = 3

Meet me = 15

Total contacts received = 5

New contact received = 0

Reply proportion at second message =3 out of 150.

Reply rate at second message = 2 %

  • Male B

1) First screenshot (third day):

b3

Figure 25. Mail Inbox at 3rd day; “Meet me” section; Number of visitors.

B1

Figure 26. Screenshot showing Contact History: Contacts Inicitated.

b2

Figure 27. Screenshot showing Contact History: Contacts Received.

Mail inbox = 2

Meet me = 0

Contacts initiated = 100

Contacts received = 0

Reply proportion at first message =2 out of 100.

Reply rate at first message = 2 %

2) Second screenshot (seventh day):

panel2

Figure 28. Mail Inbox at 7th day; “Meet me” section; Number of visitors.

b5

Figure 29. Screenshot showing Contact History: Contacts Inicitated. The number of people contacted for this dummy were 100. Note that the screenshot shows 98 users, because 2 of them have removed their accounts.

b4

Figure 30. Screenshot showing Contact History: Contacts Received.

Mail inbox = 3

Meet me = 0

Total contacts received = 1

New contact received = 1

Reply proportion at second message =2 out of 100.

Reply rate at second message = 2 %

  • Male E

1) First screenshot (third day):

a

Figure 31. Mail Inbox at 3rd day; “Meet me” section; Number of visitors.

b

Figure 32. Screenshot showing Contact History: Contacts Inicitated. The number of people contacted with this dummy were 100. Note that the screenshot shows 99 users, because 1 of them have removed her account.

c

Figure 33. Screenshot showing Contact History: Contacts Received.

Mail inbox = 3

Meet me = 2

Contacts initiated = 100

Contacts received = 0

Reply proportion at first message =3 out of 100.

Reply rate at first message = 3 %

2) Second screenshot (7th day):

2a

Figure 34. Mail Inbox at 7th day; “Meet me” section (Note that the screenshot shows now 1 user wants to meet this person, because 1 of them have removed her account); Number of visitors.

2c

Figure 35. Screenshot showing Contact History: Contacts Inicitated. The number of people contacted with this dummy were 100. Note that the screenshot shows 98 users, because 2 of them have removed their accounts.

2b

Figure 36. Screenshot showing Contact History: Contacts Received.

Mail inbox = 0

Meet me = 2

Total contacts received = 0

New contact received = 0

Reply proportion at second message =0 out of 100.

Reply rate at second message = 0 %

  • Male A

1) First screenshot (third day):

a2

Figure 37. Mail Inbox at 3rd day; “Meet me” section; Number of visitors.

a3

Figure 38. Screenshot showing Contact History: Contacts Inicitated. The number of people contacted with this dummy were 100.

a4

Figure 39. Screenshot showing Contact History: Contacts Received.

Mail inbox = 3

Meet me = 1

Contacts initiated = 100

Contacts received = 0

Reply proportion at first message =3 out of 100.

Reply rate at first message = 3 %

*Note: This dummy account was deleted by the system after I did the first screenshot (for reasons unknown to me), so I could not collect further data.

c) Below-medium attractiveness dummy profile:

  • Male W

1) First screenshot (third day):

fpanel

Figure 40. Mail Inbox at 3rd day; “Meet me” section; Number of visitors.

f1

Figure 41. Screenshot showing Contact History: Contacts Inicitated. The number of people contacted with this dummy were 100.

f2

Figure 42. Screenshot showing Contact History: Contacts Received.

Mail inbox = 2

Meet me = 0

Contacts initiated = 100

Contacts received = 0

Reply proportion at first message =2 out of 100.

Reply rate at first message = 2 %

2) Second screenshot (7th day):

fpanel2

Figure 43. Mail Inbox at 7th day; “Meet me” section; Number of visitors.

f3

Figure 44. Screenshot showing Contact History: Contacts Inicitated.

f4

Figure 45. Screenshot showing Contact History: Contacts Received.

Mail inbox = 1

Meet me = 0

Total contacts received = 0

New contact received = 0

Reply proportion at second message =1 out of 100.

Reply rate at second message = 1 %

 

Table of results (study 3):

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Overall Results Table for males profiles:

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Discussion

 

Dating pool in “Meet me”:

 
The highly-attractive men has (M=50.75) women interested (potential matches in “meet me” section) 6 times more women interested than the moderately-attractive males ( M= 8 women), more than 11 women interested than the medium-attractive males (M=4,4). The below-medium male did not get any like in meet me feature.

 
• Contacts received:

 
The most attractive men have (M=42.8) 17 times more messages in a week than the moderately-attractive men (M=2.5), and 27 times more messages than the average-attractive males (M=1.6). The below-medium guy did not get any contact received. The two best looking men monopolized 91.3 % of the contact received.

 
•Reply rate at second message:

 
The best attractive guys are reciprocated on average by 1 out of 2,3 women. The moderately-attractive group are reciprocated by around 1 out of 35 women. The medium-attractive and below-attractive groups get the same reply rate at second message, and they are reciprocated by 1 out of 100 women.

 

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17 Responses to Plenty of Fish Experiment: Study 3

  1. davi says:

    Hey, first of all very nice experiments. I’m very glad I found your blog a few months ago.
    I wanted to link a post that you once made and found this new series of posts.

    You actually inspired me to run some experiments on my own.

    Right now I’m working on a different experiment.
    I use photos of the same guy (a millionaire) in the first set he doesn’t flash his money and on the second one he does, I’m still collecting data.

    Do you have an e-mail or something? I would like to share my results with you first

    By the way, if you want to make a tinder experiments it’s just as easy as to download “bluestacks”, make some few facebook accounts and buying a new cellphone chip…

  2. thegreatshebang says:

    Lots of good work here, as usual.

  3. JT says:

    Very interesting work. Quick nitpick though. It would seem that the Medium Attractiveness (Profile D) profile was more successful than the Moderately High (Profile C) one in terms of Meet Me and Contacts Received. This doesn’t surprise me. As I was reading from the beginning my first instinct was that you got them the wrong way around. Profile D is objectively more attractive than C. Not by much admittedly but still better. I’d say a 7 for D vs a 6-6.5 for C. It could be that his photos are cooler thus making him seem more attractive and he also seems better groomed/stylish which skews him upward. The data seems to agree too. Thoughts?

    • sirtyrionlannister says:

      You may be right. Nevertheless most of the ratings were obtained by this survey: . So these scores were not arbitrarily assigned by myself.

      However I admit the two highly-attractive males (Z and Y) and the man W (below-medium attractiveness) were not submitted to assessment.

  4. skyblaze says:

    Interesting stuff – one thing I would like to know is if a smaller dating pool encourages women to settle – I think it does, but it would nice to get some sort of statistics to back it up or destroy my belief

    • sirtyrionlannister says:

      Good point. Anyway the stats that you claim are difficult to perform, since I can not research this item on a closed subsystem. That is, I could have tried to sample the same women with different male suitors and trying to find out the choice thresholds, responsiveness, discrimination, etc. But I can not control the number of candidates for each sampled women and their physical quality. There are an uncertain amount of dating pool, real male daters who are communicating with all those women, since it is an open system, and all these data are unknown and it would alter the results.

      Anyhow, this kind of analysis show off strong evidence of hypergamy preferences, with the majority of likes, sent messages and replies, going to the most desirable males in the market. After checking out by myself the pictures of receptive women for each male dummy, it provided me further evidence that females tend to aim high, regardless of their own attractiveness.

  5. thegreatshebang says:

    Just so you know, every so often I catch up and read all the new comments in all your posts. Your replies are as informative as the main posts. Keep doing the good work (as best you are able) of having some information out there to counter the nonsense in game blogs like Rollo’s.

  6. thegreatshebang says:

    Any success lately in getting people (like Rollo) to tacitly admit that their comments on Game are based on poor premises, bad hypotheses and lack of data?

    • sirtyrionlannister says:

      @thegreatshebang,

      Thanks for your interest. Unfortunately I’m totally inactive for a long time. Anyway I was not the dude who used to comment on Rollo’s blog, even though his nickname was the same as mine. His work seemed quite commendable despite impersonating me. (and plagiarizing some of my texts).

      • thegreatshebang says:

        Sorry to hear you were impersonated and plagiarized. Not good at all, despite the intentions. I understand that you would be inactive. Not a lot of interest in finding out the real science about human interaction. People prefer stories with narratives that are appealing.

        • sirtyrionlannister says:

          You’re right. Mating & sexual selection science does not arouse much interest in most people, partly because they find it abstruse, and secondly because many of the demonstrated conclusions are not pleasant for their self esteems. This can be a bitter pill to swallow, no matter how much we try to sugar coat it.

          Unfortunately science can not resolve systemic problems. Therefore a lot of men are merely appealing to spurious narratives (e.g. game) that comfort them (falsely) thinking it can help to improve their sexual/romantic lives.

  7. Travis says:

    Very Nice Tyrone. It would seem that I would be ranked 6/10 to compare to this pof study. I get several meet mes and a few messages initiated by women. Hopefully I can reach the golden 7-8/10 ratio after I have orthognatic surgery! It’s such a shame that things like this will never be mainstream. Imagine how much money PUA fags and positive thinking gurus would lose over the truth!

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